Comments on: Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: A White Man’s World http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/ irregularities and other absurdities Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:23:50 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: djchuang http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/comment-page-3/#comment-72571 djchuang Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:54:22 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/#comment-72571 whoa.. over a hundred comments on this one.. kinda sorta struck a nerve, eh? The ethnic-racial diversity conversation has been on-going for years now, and depending on which circles you run in, it is indeed wearisome b/c of such slow progress and little change. The same issues get re-hashed time and again. And, I think the momentum of the Emergent conversation does weigh much more on theological, philosophical, social justice, and lifestyle issues, and not so much on ethnic diversity, racial tension, racial inequalities right here in the US of A. There's an occasional mention of (a somewhat related topic) post-colonialism, but that's essentially kept beyond arm's length and good philosophical banter, but doesn't impact much on the home front. And, that's just where the conversation sits for now. whoa.. over a hundred comments on this one.. kinda sorta struck a nerve, eh?

The ethnic-racial diversity conversation has been on-going for years now, and depending on which circles you run in, it is indeed wearisome b/c of such slow progress and little change. The same issues get re-hashed time and again.

And, I think the momentum of the Emergent conversation does weigh much more on theological, philosophical, social justice, and lifestyle issues, and not so much on ethnic diversity, racial tension, racial inequalities right here in the US of A. There’s an occasional mention of (a somewhat related topic) post-colonialism, but that’s essentially kept beyond arm’s length and good philosophical banter, but doesn’t impact much on the home front. And, that’s just where the conversation sits for now.

]]> By: Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: All Theology Talk | IAmJoshBrown http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/comment-page-3/#comment-72409 Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: All Theology Talk | IAmJoshBrown Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:02:08 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/#comment-72409 [...] - An Introduction, 2 - A White Man’s World, 3 - Trend/Denomination, 4- A Public Service Announcement on Friendship, 5 - We Hate Scripture, The [...] [...] – An Introduction, 2 – A White Man’s World, 3 – Trend/Denomination, 4- A Public Service Announcement on Friendship, 5 – We Hate Scripture, The [...]

]]> By: Aaron http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/comment-page-3/#comment-71896 Aaron Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:32:55 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/#comment-71896 Josh, Josh, Josh, ... Come on man. Can you please interact with some of the critiques that are out there from us folks of color. PLEASE! I truly did come here (because one of your buddies told me it would be good)to find some credibility to this "all white" movement but have to say that I am left with nothing. Help a brotha out man! Tell me why this isn't a bunch of white guys calling something "new" that really isn't. I am trying to understand but everybody I talk to (all white men) will not deal with the issue at hand. I tell you what... I posed this challenge to the guy who was trying (like you) to convince me that your movement isn't a privileged homogeneous movement. Go to Google and type in the word "emergent" and then tell me what you find. Who pops up? Then come back and interact with me. I truly am listening man! Couple more things... You guys are trying really hard to be "undefined" and this is truly funny. You wonder why folks don't take you guys seriously when you try to be so mysterious. Come on dawg!That is some high school stuff. Almost like the whole "indy" rock movement. Lastly... how is this not a extreme expression of post modernity. Here are some tenants of PM... - tenancy to shed history and it's impact - always labeling and searching for something new - dogmatic about others - and once again very white:) Help me out man! And save the cussing and tough guy stuff please. It does not work here. Peace, By the way I put my website and email on here so you can come and holla at me when you get a chance. Josh, Josh, Josh, … Come on man. Can you please interact with some of the critiques that are out there from us folks of color. PLEASE! I truly did come here (because one of your buddies told me it would be good)to find some credibility to this “all white” movement but have to say that I am left with nothing. Help a brotha out man! Tell me why this isn’t a bunch of white guys calling something “new” that really isn’t.
I am trying to understand but everybody I talk to (all white men) will not deal with the issue at hand.
I tell you what… I posed this challenge to the guy who was trying (like you) to convince me that your movement isn’t a privileged homogeneous movement. Go to Google and type in the word “emergent” and then tell me what you find. Who pops up? Then come back and interact with me. I truly am listening man!
Couple more things… You guys are trying really hard to be “undefined” and this is truly funny. You wonder why folks don’t take you guys seriously when you try to be so mysterious. Come on dawg!That is some high school stuff. Almost like the whole “indy” rock movement.
Lastly… how is this not a extreme expression of post modernity. Here are some tenants of PM…
- tenancy to shed history and it’s impact
- always labeling and searching for something new
- dogmatic about others
- and once again very white:)

Help me out man! And save the cussing and tough guy stuff please. It does not work here.

Peace,

By the way I put my website and email on here so you can come and holla at me when you get a chance.

]]> By: Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: The Bastard Child of Evangelicalism | IAmJoshBrown http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/comment-page-3/#comment-71893 Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: The Bastard Child of Evangelicalism | IAmJoshBrown Wed, 20 Feb 2008 04:33:11 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/#comment-71893 [...] - An Introduction, 2 - A White Man’s World, 3 - Trend/Denomination, 4- A Public Service Announcement on Friendship, 5 - We Hate [...] [...] – An Introduction, 2 – A White Man’s World, 3 – Trend/Denomination, 4- A Public Service Announcement on Friendship, 5 – We Hate [...]

]]> By: sonja http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/comment-page-3/#comment-71863 sonja Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:05:27 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/11/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-white-mans-world/#comment-71863 I am far more impressed by the discussion, conversation, etc. here than the "map" that Patton put together. Especially after his bow to women with Ruth Tucker (who I would add to the generous list here, btw). I am far more impressed by the discussion, conversation, etc. here than the “map” that Patton put together. Especially after his bow to women with Ruth Tucker (who I would add to the generous list here, btw).

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