http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/ irregularities and other absurdities Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:23:50 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/comment-page-1/#comment-93711 Links for February 12th | jonathan stegall Sun, 08 Feb 2009 17:41:12 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/#comment-93711 [...] Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: Trend/Denomination | IAmJoshBrown [...] [...] Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: Trend/Denomination | IAmJoshBrown [...]

]]> http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/comment-page-1/#comment-73965 Emergent Church: Denomination or Common Grammar? « zoecarnate Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:33:16 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/#comment-73965 [...] Here is Josh Brown’s take on whether emergent faith is ‘becoming another denomination.’ His whole series on this is worth reading–see [...] [...] Here is Josh Brown’s take on whether emergent faith is ‘becoming another denomination.’ His whole series on this is worth reading–see [...]

]]> http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/comment-page-1/#comment-71756 Thoughts on the Emerging Church « Revolution 115 Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:29:48 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/#comment-71756 [...] Read Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: Trend/Denomination. [...] [...] Read Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: Trend/Denomination. [...]

]]> http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/comment-page-1/#comment-71718 Challenging the Critiques of Emergent: We Hate Scripture | IAmJoshBrown Mon, 18 Feb 2008 04:25:32 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/#comment-71718 [...] - An Introduction, 2 - A White Man’s World, 3 - Trend/Denomination, 4- A Public Service Announcement on [...] [...] – An Introduction, 2 – A White Man’s World, 3 – Trend/Denomination, 4- A Public Service Announcement on [...]

]]> http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/comment-page-1/#comment-71607 Minnowspeaks Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:15:30 +0000 http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/02/12/challenging-the-critiques-of-emergent-its-just-a-trendy-brand-that-will-eventually-become-a-denomination/#comment-71607 Okay, so the "leaders" don't want Emergent (which is a verb) to become a denomination (which is a noun) because they aready are pastors of churches (or professional writers or...)that aren't denominationally connected. But, they are visiting groups as invited speakers, writing books, and holding conferences to what? Promote their mutual philosophy of how to "emerge" spiritually, socially, and politically in a post modern world? And, if people buy into said philosophy (theology) what are they supposed to do? Go rock the boat back in their local congregation? Split off from their own congregation and do the lone wolf thing until they find some other lone wolf? Blog with you all so they have a "sense of community and can join a conversation" because we've already split (physically or emotionally) from a building-based form of Chrisitanity we no longer understand or recognize or want to? (Guess my "Church" hurts are showing now--sorry). Two comments caught my attention: From Jonathan on 2/12 at 12:30 PM [Emergent seems to be] "a shift from control oriented religions of the past." Sounds like how a lot of denominations got started--get back to the Bible and away from the control. Is Emergent different? From Rob on 2/12 at 2:01 AM Talking about some of the snobbishness that seems to ooze here and there, "I'm just not sure one has to read five or six theologians in order to do friendship." Seems like most of the "rank and file" aren't sem students, pastors or pastor-want-to-bes. Maybe a good question to ask yourselves is: Outside of the leadership circle what's your age demographic and what's their social status (student, employeed outside the church, married, single, with or w/o children)? Many of us who are watching from the sidelines, (popping in and out of the conversation because our lives demand most of our time not because we're lazy and don't want to stick with it. Example: my two year old just now needed me to help her go potty, my 19 year old left for college retreat earlier so I went out to bring back a treat before he took off, I have a Dylexic son who frequently needs help with homework and so...I break away from the conversation or I arrive late and post after everyone else has left), anyway, we (if I can speak so boldly as to think there might be someone else out there in my boat) are hoping that what we see in Emergent is a gathering of people giving voice to the idea of being Church rather that going to Church and then coming together to share, encourage, minister, and worship (in various ways as unreligiously as posible). We're hoping we see folks who are not just talking about important issues from a Biblical/life perspective like: poverty and world hunger and HIV/Aids, but who are taking small (and larger) steps toward making a positive difference in those areas. (If you need to call that social justice so be it but it's social justice in the name of Christ not in the name of politics). I've gone on way longer than I intended and I'm probably way off track for the point of this post. I don't even know if I ended up going where I intended to but life goes on so I can't really go back and editi now. Okay, so the “leaders” don’t want Emergent (which is a verb) to become a denomination (which is a noun) because they aready are pastors of churches (or professional writers or…)that aren’t denominationally connected. But, they are visiting groups as invited speakers, writing books, and holding conferences to what? Promote their mutual philosophy of how to “emerge” spiritually, socially, and politically in a post modern world? And, if people buy into said philosophy (theology) what are they supposed to do? Go rock the boat back in their local congregation? Split off from their own congregation and do the lone wolf thing until they find some other lone wolf? Blog with you all so they have a “sense of community and can join a conversation” because we’ve already split (physically or emotionally) from a building-based form of Chrisitanity we no longer understand or recognize or want to? (Guess my “Church” hurts are showing now–sorry).
Two comments caught my attention: From Jonathan on 2/12 at 12:30 PM [Emergent seems to be] “a shift from control oriented religions of the past.” Sounds like how a lot of denominations got started–get back to the Bible and away from the control. Is Emergent different?
From Rob on 2/12 at 2:01 AM Talking about some of the snobbishness that seems to ooze here and there, “I’m just not sure one has to read five or six theologians in order to do friendship.” Seems like most of the “rank and file” aren’t sem students, pastors or pastor-want-to-bes. Maybe a good question to ask yourselves is: Outside of the leadership circle what’s your age demographic and what’s their social status (student, employeed outside the church, married, single, with or w/o children)? Many of us who are watching from the sidelines, (popping in and out of the conversation because our lives demand most of our time not because we’re lazy and don’t want to stick with it. Example: my two year old just now needed me to help her go potty, my 19 year old left for college retreat earlier so I went out to bring back a treat before he took off, I have a Dylexic son who frequently needs help with homework and so…I break away from the conversation or I arrive late and post after everyone else has left), anyway, we (if I can speak so boldly as to think there might be someone else out there in my boat) are hoping that what we see in Emergent is a gathering of people giving voice to the idea of being Church rather that going to Church and then coming together to share, encourage, minister, and worship (in various ways as unreligiously as posible). We’re hoping we see folks who are not just talking about important issues from a Biblical/life perspective like: poverty and world hunger and HIV/Aids, but who are taking small (and larger) steps toward making a positive difference in those areas. (If you need to call that social justice so be it but it’s social justice in the name of Christ not in the name of politics). I’ve gone on way longer than I intended and I’m probably way off track for the point of this post. I don’t even know if I ended up going where I intended to but life goes on so I can’t really go back and editi now.

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