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	<title>Comments on: I Remember When Emergent Wasn&#8217;t Cool</title>
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	<description>irregularities and other absurdities</description>
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		<title>By: The Post Where I Officially Claim Heresy While Discussing Jesus For President &#171; movement, movement</title>
		<link>http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/06/06/i-remember-when-emergent-was-pure/comment-page-1/#comment-81019</link>
		<dc:creator>The Post Where I Officially Claim Heresy While Discussing Jesus For President &#171; movement, movement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For President by Shane Claiborne and Chris Haw. I guess I didn&#8217;t get the memo that being Emergent was cool. Ok, so maybe Claiborne et. al. doesn&#8217;t perfectly fit the Emergent mold, but its close enough [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For President by Shane Claiborne and Chris Haw. I guess I didn&#8217;t get the memo that being Emergent was cool. Ok, so maybe Claiborne et. al. doesn&#8217;t perfectly fit the Emergent mold, but its close enough [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Great Giveaway, pt.1 &#171; subversivechurch</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Great Giveaway, pt.1 &#171; subversivechurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mentioned this before on Josh Brown&#8217;s website.  That emergent is just a repackaging of the same old, same old.  While I don&#8217;t necessarily [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mentioned this before on Josh Brown&#8217;s website.  That emergent is just a repackaging of the same old, same old.  While I don&#8217;t necessarily [...]</p>
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		<title>By: this might get us in trouble&#8230; &#171; subversivechurch</title>
		<link>http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/06/06/i-remember-when-emergent-was-pure/comment-page-1/#comment-78372</link>
		<dc:creator>this might get us in trouble&#8230; &#171; subversivechurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commented on Josh Brown&#8217;s blog about the emergent church succumbing to marketing pressure.  And I can understand Josh&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] commented on Josh Brown&#8217;s blog about the emergent church succumbing to marketing pressure.  And I can understand Josh&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brittian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m super late to this conversation...unforgivably so...but...

This all sort of reminds me of a question I&#039;ve had concerning &quot;kingdom now&quot; eschatology (which I can almost hear the audible gasp of &quot;where is this coming from?&quot;).  But hear me out.  

Walter Brueggemann talked about the empire seeking to live in the eternal now.  It seeks to be ever present with no memory of it&#039;s past and no hope towards the future.  He then made, what I consider to be a deeply profound statement: &quot;If the hope is to immediate then it will simply be co-opted by the empire&quot;.  He then finalizes the thought by challenging people not to manage change and create new forms to move within but rather to dream out loud...to create and imagine.  He might say we are called to be &quot;imaginer&#039;s&quot; of the new thing NOT managers of the new thing. 

By presenting an ultra sense of &quot;kingdom now&quot; (which again I&#039;m totally down with--all about--love it!)  do we put ourselves in jeaparady?  And maybe to go beyond the idea of escatology...by creating the new form are we simply creating a space to be co-opted by the dominate regime?  

I don&#039;t know...but something in your post tells me--yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m super late to this conversation&#8230;unforgivably so&#8230;but&#8230;</p>
<p>This all sort of reminds me of a question I&#8217;ve had concerning &#8220;kingdom now&#8221; eschatology (which I can almost hear the audible gasp of &#8220;where is this coming from?&#8221;).  But hear me out.  </p>
<p>Walter Brueggemann talked about the empire seeking to live in the eternal now.  It seeks to be ever present with no memory of it&#8217;s past and no hope towards the future.  He then made, what I consider to be a deeply profound statement: &#8220;If the hope is to immediate then it will simply be co-opted by the empire&#8221;.  He then finalizes the thought by challenging people not to manage change and create new forms to move within but rather to dream out loud&#8230;to create and imagine.  He might say we are called to be &#8220;imaginer&#8217;s&#8221; of the new thing NOT managers of the new thing. </p>
<p>By presenting an ultra sense of &#8220;kingdom now&#8221; (which again I&#8217;m totally down with&#8211;all about&#8211;love it!)  do we put ourselves in jeaparady?  And maybe to go beyond the idea of escatology&#8230;by creating the new form are we simply creating a space to be co-opted by the dominate regime?  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230;but something in your post tells me&#8211;yes.</p>
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		<title>By: The Future of Emergent (Emergent Village, that is)</title>
		<link>http://www.iamjoshbrown.com/blog/2008/06/06/i-remember-when-emergent-was-pure/comment-page-1/#comment-77630</link>
		<dc:creator>The Future of Emergent (Emergent Village, that is)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There&#8217;s been a lot of noise going around the blogosphere over the past week or so concerning Emergent Village and their going mainstream, or selling-out, or whatever and by doing so losing the veracity of their marginal and thereby prophetic voice.   [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There&#8217;s been a lot of noise going around the blogosphere over the past week or so concerning Emergent Village and their going mainstream, or selling-out, or whatever and by doing so losing the veracity of their marginal and thereby prophetic voice.   [...]</p>
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